NO: 17 DEC 1985 Manhatten Club - Leuven, Belgium
Let's Go, Age Of Consent, Thieves Like Us, The Perfect Kiss, State Of The Nation, Confusion, As It Is When It Was, The Village, Subculture, Atmosphere, Temptation, Blue Monday
See http://www.image.dk/~biotech4/no/liveanth.htm (gone now, but brought back via the Wayback Machine)
Turns out the date listed there is wrong. Waterrat's correction follows.
"Regardless, I have a question:
NO-851231 'Cultuurcafe VUB' Leuven Belgium [a venue NO never played, the listing has since been corrected]
I have the above show listed as 31 DEC 85 I believe it may have been a late night gig similar to the Ally Pally gig the band played last year on New Year's eve. I have tapes of the gig which list it on 12-31-85 and 1-1-86 and so on.
I think it occured on either the 31st or the 1st, because the announcers on my video tapes welcome the audience by saying 'Happy New Year' which I doubt would happen on the 31st."
Actually, the gig was recorded on 17 DEC, but broadcast two weeks later.
53 min sb A+
The Perfect Kiss
Age Of Consent
Thieves Like Us
State Of The Nation
As It Was When It Was
The Village
Sub-Culture
Atmosphere
Blue Monday
GeoBest says that there's a mixing desk tape of this gig (and a video!) that includes Let's Go as the first track. Also, the original broadcast version has TPK first, it should be after Thieves...it could be that version moved TPK from fourth to second (or first as above). It also omits Confusion (sixth track) and Temptation (11th track).
It appears that subsequent (re-)broadcasts included Let's Go.
Recording was done using a 24 track mobile, according to the captions at the end of the Rox Box broadcast.
According to Simon Park, "It was broadcast on a satellite TV station in the eighties called Rox Box. They showed the majority of the show in one go and I never saw it repeated. They also broadcast (from memory) the first two songs from the gig on a separate date, which were not in the first broadcast."
A segment of videotape preserves the announcers' intro...there's a caption with 'REM 3:03' in this.
Announcers (male and female):
"...Manhattan in Belgium, for one of Britain's most popular bands. Ladies and gentlemen...please welcome...New Order!"
Let's Go
BS: "We'll start tonight with an instrumental. It's called "Let's Go".
PH: "Shut up, bigmouth....ready?"
Gillian bumps her elbow against the keyboard at the 2:07 mark, and injects a couple of bum notes. Oops. :)
BS: "Thanks very much, thanks very much."
Age Of Consent
Slight variation with Hooky's opening bass salvo.
Thieves Like Us
- Variation
BS: "Love is the air that destroyed the eagle."
At about 3:45, Barney yells, "Turn the fucking amp down!"
BS: "And when it dies, it dies for fucking good." (later verse)
The Perfect Kiss
Barney plucks the riff to "Are You Experienced" by Jimi Hendrix. He does this a couple of other times during the 85-86 period (Edinburgh Playhouse 9 Sep 86 is the other time I recall offhand). Then some guitar strumming, sounds like he's having a bit of trouble with his sound.
BS: "Thanks very much, thank you very much indeed."
A bit more strumming.
State Of The Nation
- Variation
lyric: "Now we turn our backs to the wall/ To see if it's worthwhile, what's grown up."
Ends with some loud guitar chords.
Confusion
BS: "This next song's called Confusion, and on this song we're gonna loosen up a little bit, I think".
Sound of Bernard plugging his bass in.
Ends up with a bit of a bass solo.
As It Is When It Was
Sounds mostly like the LP version, but even here there's slight differences in the structure of the song.
lyric: "And the lies of those fucking crooks."
He draws out the last word "glove" to the point of hilarity.
BS: "Thank you very much, thank you very much."
The Village
Another disguised attempt to influence the live mixer:
lyric: "And we're stuck two years in Hell/ The wrong place, the right side of the bells"
The mixer leaves off the last ten seconds...but the CD I have has it punched in from the audience version.
Sub-culture
BS: "Now this is Subculture, Subculture, Subculture, Subcult..."
lyric: "I like fucking in the park, when it gets late at night."
lyric: "I like talking in my sleep, when people fuck so hard.
They need what they can suck, a joint that makes them high."
Pop at 3:57.
Barney playes the riff to "All Along The Watchtower" by Jimi Hendrix before descending into some weird guitar noodling (others would call it wankery) here. If the Cure can play Jimi songs, why can't NO?
Atmosphere
BS: "This is not a new song, it's a very old song."
PH: "One. Two. Three. Four."
The keyboards sound really off, but the sound is absolutely stunning otherwise.
Afterwards,
BS: "Thank you very much, goodnight."
New Order than encore with Temptation and Blue Monday.
The latter has an overdriven guitar sound unique to this version. It has to be heard to be believed. Bernard comes in a bit early on the second verse, but otherwise this version is unusually good. Plus Hooky performs topless!
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