NO: 15 MAY 1985 Canterbury Court - Perth

 

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Setlist

Sunrise, Sooner Than You Think, Subculture, Age Of Consent, As It Is When It Was, Hurt, 586, Chosen Time, Temptation, The Perfect Kiss, Confusion

With Just Add Water and Childrens' Dance.

This was originally identified as 11 Aug 1985 from the Fox Theater in Atlanta, which still hasn't surfaced.  More recently, we've been having doubts that this was really from that show.

TJ writes the following:

"Hi Sam,

I've been doing some more detective work...... I remembered seeing a poster on eBay last year for Perth Canterbury Court 15/5/85, but hadn't realised that this was an unknown gig until looking at your gigography. I know we hadn't got a recording, or so we thought....

I've done a lot of listening to the horrow show that we had previously tentatively identified as Atlanta Fox Theater 11/8/85, but I am now starting to come over heavily to the idea that this is indeed the Perth 15/5/85 show.

1. The CD I go had OZ/NZ85 written on it - this is how it was labelled when it went to David Sultan in the first place as part of that box. (the tape itself doesn't seem to reflect that)
2. The performance is very much one of a band who haven't been rehearsing, rather than one mid-tour, as would have been the case for Atlanta.
3. The setlist fits in better with what they were doing in Hong Kong/Japan/ Australia than it does the US - many overlaps with the New Orleans 12/8/85 show but hardly any with the Melbourne 17/5/85 show, which fits in with their rotation policy.
4. As It Is When It Was is better formed than the Japanese versions, but not as advanced as the US versions, and the lyrics are the same as Brisbane five days later.
5. The voice that calls out for In A Lonely Place when Bernard picks up his melodica before Hurt is not an American one....sounds more Antipodean to me.

Still in stitches over some of the performances that night - Subculture on the wrong bass string, shoddy Sunrise guitar work, an apocalyptic Chosen Time, Bernard's failure to read the setlist, Gillian striking again on STYT..... quite possibly the worst ever performance I would think!"

This gig is probably one of the worst-played in New Order's ouevre, and should be interesting for that reason alone.

Audio sourced from a mixing desk recording, in fact, one of the ones in Hooky's cupboard...the only one known of this show.

Sunrise

All yours for a thousand quid (eBay)

Intro guitar is all over the place, to say the least.  

BS: "Thank you very much.

Sooner Than You Think

BS: "This next song is called Sooner Than You Think"

The guitar solo is way off.

Hooky plays a few bars of something or another before the next tune.

Subculture

The last couplet is different than the normal.

"One of these days when you're all by your own/ You'll wind up in your house that you cannot own"

Age Of Consent

BS: "This is a very new song."

He must have crossed this up with the next song, As It Is When It Was.

The audio during the first portion of the song is clipped.

Via eBay listing

As It Is When It Was

BS: "This one's called a Bullet In My Ear"  

Again, the intro is waaay off.

Barney coughs midway through, 1:55.

BS: "Eddie, you turn the drums a bit down please?"

Hurt

The bass riff is all over the place here.

"It's the time you love to hate, I can take you up anywhere you want I am quite determined that there will be no more mistakes, like the last one. Happy [can't make out, this is delivered in a yelling tone]"

5-8-6

BS: "Sequencer, Ed, just a little bit more."

The Order a decent version of this tune. I love the whoops and the "Can you hear me calling you...baby!" parts. Loud synth 'tinkle' at around the 3:37 mark, before the marimba-sounding keyboard solo.

BS: "Hey, no swearing!"

Chosen Time

This has to be the worst-performed song ever for New Order. The bass synth riff is on another planet, and Barney is giggling throughout because it's so bad.

BS: "...a new tuning than we wrote this song in, [?} tune. You got any red light, Andy? Anyway, anyway, anyway, I'm sure we'll get the next one right."

Temptation

This is faded out at the 5:30 mark.

The Perfect Kiss

Faded in. Hooky's messes up the intro (unless he meant it, heh). A bit of trouble with the mixing, as Barney's vocals cut out at about 2:21.

Confusion

New Order may have introed with this song....lots of use of the "ratatata" samples, ending in a Hooky bass flurry.

Buzz Roberts

Versions

SBD #1  From Hooky's box of tapes / kitchen cupboard, labeled "AU/OZ '85" so through the process of elimination, it was determined from the Perth show.

This can be heard here, as well as on YouTube above...the poster may need to update their info on where on the gigography it's posted...