NO: 10 DEC 1985 El Dorado - Paris, France

 


Setlist

Your Silent Face, Dreams Never End, Temptation, Subculture, Leave Me Alone, Sooner Than You Think, State Of The Nation, Blue Monday, Age Of Consent, Atmosphere, Sunrise

Source is tape in my collection, my notes mention this was recorded with a "Sony M-2", but is more properly noted as a Sony DC using PC62 mics.  Unfortunately, my copy sounds like it's a few generations off the master. Another version (Be.Co.'s) has surfaced recently, as well as a third (from calimero) and featured on YouTube, which has some of the (horrid) pre-gig backing music, and is missing Age Of Consent.

The audience seem really into this one, as NO get a huge ovation when they start to play, their first song being the hallmark Your Silent Face.

Theres a defect about 20 seconds into Dreams Never End, like somebody hit pause by mistake and immediately fixed their error. (tape in my sollection)

BS appears to say a couple sentences in what I thought was French, but was quickly corrected by a speaker, who claims nothing of the sort. So I took another listen and managed to make out the following.

BS: "Hello, everyone...we'd like to thank [some name] as our road crew, because your immigration laws wouldn't allow our road crew into the country because of their extremely low IQ."

Temptation has another source tape problem about 2:45 in. I'm not promulgating this information to be picky, but as a means to track the genesis of particular concert sources. Not present on the Be.Co. version.

BS: "Thanks very much, thanks very much..."

There's a lot of shouting right before the Order get into Sub-culture.

Leave Me Alone has major audio gaps between 3:35 and 3:50, and another one at 4:30, right at the end of the song, but not on the Be.Co. copy. The calimero version has an edit here.

Sooner Than You Think follows.

State Of The Nation

BS: "Eh, this next song is a new song, I know you don't speak English, but I can't speak French...and it's called Shame Of The Nation, it's about prostitutes with big tits..."

(heh, somebody yells out for him to 'don't ever speak French')

BS: "It's about fear and intimidation."

State/Shame Of The Nation gets cut off on the Sony version, so we never hear the ending, but the Be.Co. version is complete.

The sound seems to improve somewhat for Blue Monday. Nice funky guitar work on same. This appears twice on my tape, side A (which sounds much better) is cut, side B (which seems to suffer from overly high recording levels) is complete.

BS: "What, you got a guitar lead, please...you know."

Then you can hear him say something else off-mic.

Age Of Consent

PH: "Just can't get good help when you need it..."

There's a few pops and small skips in the Be.Co. version during this track.

The ending is a bit different.

Atmosphere

PH: "C'mon...have a conversation [something]...fuckin' hell. One, two, three, four."

Bernard sounds slightly rusty with the lyrics...but here's a classic:

lyric: "Destroyed by self-hate/and we're taking a buzz"

Another stop/start edit (M-2). They conclude with Sunrise.

BS: "Thanks very much, good night!"

Versions, as detailed above.

FM, Radio RTH 99 Rock
SB tradelist lists as 6 tr 34m 9.0+
AUD #1Sony WM-D6PC62ANA2 > ANA1Probably the same as the DAP-> BV listed as well. One that BV received from DAP, judging from the handwriting on the tape. Also surfaced via TM ANA1 ->RH. Given the lineage and how common CC sources are with RH/MB/VV, it's nearly a lock to all be one and the same, but according to Dimitroy it wasn't actually recorded by him. SOTN is cut at the end where the A/B flip point is.
AUD #2 'airneck' (be. Co.)Marantz PMD-201ElectrovoiceANA0tock.  airneck: I found out those past days one of my old tapes New Order live in Paris,1985-12-10 at the Eldorado, Paris, France. The concert is complete I guess.  My tape has been never released before.It was a short set  (1:01:59) taped with my Marantz Tape Recorder PDM 201 + Mic Electrovoice"  Master Tape Sony 70us -> Pioneer Cassette Deck T-C3 -> Powerbook -> Peak 4.1 (digital recording edition) ".  SOTN is complete, KW1 faded in.
AUD #3 - Fractured/Image YouTubeANA0 DIME (borzage < calimero), mrgreen.  f you listen closely to the Blue Monday sample on DIME you can hear someone say at around 0:33 "?a va bouger l?" (?). This is neither on the Be.Co master nor on the DAP_BV_ANA2."   It's also missing AoC.  Calimero says he got this from a French trader so it can't be better than ANA2.  SOTN is complete, but missing AoC.

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