NO: 20 AUG 1985 Henry J. Kaiser Convention Center - Oakland CA
GaoBest claims that NO played in Oakland on 8/20/85 (he initially said 9/20/85 but this may have been a typo)...the Gigography has 8/19/85...I do have a tape of this one, as of yet unlistened to.
From: GaoBest
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 11:53:48 EDT
Subject: Re: (Fac33) Monday Glasgow gig To: ceremony@monkey.org
In a message dated 10/9/01 6:02:48 AM, GalacCon writes:
They didn't do an encore on Monday night. Local radio station, Radio Clyde
got lots of calls complaining. I heard some folk saying Hooky got spat
at, and Barney too much abuse as well, which put the band in a bad mood.
Personally I would have been ecstatic. This is total classic NO to not do the encore; and if the crowd put them in the bad mood, all the better.
I still don't know why they did an encore at the 9-20-85 Kaiser Arena (Oakland, CA) gig where they got spat on, the lights were annoying them, and probably more - starting the Blue Monday encore with "you really don't deserve it" made me wonder why they bothered! I think the last encore song was Sister Ray but I've not heard the tape in years.
(Entry has since been corrected to reflect the correct date)
"sharksfan2000" adds:
"I think that 20 August is the correct date of this show rather than the 19th - the 20th was a Tuesday, and I don't think the gig was on a Monday. I remember being disappointed in the performance after the show, but listening to the recording of the show, it wasn't so bad after all. I think a lot of my disappointment was being so far from the band at that show, and the really crappy sound - the sound on the recording is much better than what I heard that night!
I don't have many specific memories of the show, and although I did sort of realize that the band was in a bad mood as the show wore on, I didn't know about the spitting incident until much later.
"Sister Ray" was by far the most memorable part of the show for me, since I had no idea they might play that. And from the reactions of people I saw in the crowd, most of them had no idea what the band was playing. I suppose that shouldn't have been a big surprise - I imagine many there had only followed them since "Blue Monday". It's easy to hear on the recording how the band members left the stage one by one until it was only Steve drumming through the feedback from the guitar and bass that had been left onstage. A classic New Order moment."
Writeup
Your Silent Face
BS: "We are [guitar strum] The New Order".
First line: "A thought that never changes remains a waste of time."
End of first stanza: "You caught me in a bad time, I see you looking somewhere."
This is transposed from later on in the song, of course.
BS: "Thanks very much, thank you very much."
I think Hooky says "Let's Go" off-mic.
Love Vigilantes
A few tentative notes from the melodica right before intro bass. Very nice guitar here.
BS: "Turn the lights down a bit, I knew...let's get a bit of atmosphere going here, please. Do you what that word means alright? (clears throat) I know what it means."
The guitar intro to As Is It When It Was segues into the synths of Sunrise.
PH: "We're always pulling fucking stunts like that.
BS: "Eddie, baby, Eddie!"
Mic click at 5:26.
BS: "Andy...Andy, make sure to see what I'm playing, please."
(probably in reference to playing the intro a song too early)
BS: "Well, (we'll) make it a bit easy for you now, play something that you all know."
Sooner Than You Think
(at the end)
BS: "Thanks very much, punters. Andy, a few more lights to the side... side of the stage, wouldn't go messing up. Gotta see what I'm playing, Andy, you motherfucker."
The 'Andy' in question is Andy Liddle, who handled their lighting for most of New Order's live work.
586
Keyboards come in a bit early about 2:30, but only few seconds, like this was a mistake. Otherwise, nice.
The Village
lyric addition, improvised: "Cannot show, cuz we do not know, we don't know where I have gone. We do not know the size of your tits, we don't know where you have been. You love you, you love me, that's how happy we have to be..." (or "the way it has to be")
Ceremony
BS: "Would the little shit who's spitting in the front come backstage after? We'd like to meet you."
As a result, not one of their better renditions, at least until the end.
lyric: "Avenue all lined with trees, turn the FUCKING lights off!"
BS: "Thank you very much, thank you very much indeed."
Age Of Consent
(at the end)
BS: "Excuse me. Still a bunch of fucking hippies, eh? Where's your flowers? They've all withered."
Blue Monday
BS: "Ah you miserable bastards, you don't deserve it (mumble). No more fucking... [at this point Hooky had thrown down his bass in disgust at the anemic response]...Something's feeding back, Ozzie"
A second or two of guitar strumming before the Order start into a version of Sister Ray. At some point I should transcribe the lyrics Barney sings for it, an amazing-sounding rendition!
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