NO: 26 AUG 1984 Guildhall - Portsmouth, England
Confusion, Ceremony, Face Up, Leave Me Alone, Hurt, The Village, Dreams Never End, Age Of Consent, Blue Monday, The Perfect Kiss, Temptation
Supported by Blue In Heaven.
From: "Kevin Maidment"
Subject: Portsmouth 84
Here's a few recollections about New Order's gig in Portsmouth August 1994
I spent most of the afternoon hanging around the back of the venue attempting to listen to the soundcheck, which was fairly pointless seeing as the Guildhall is right next to the railway track (although i did get to hear Senses and The Village). It was a brilliantly sunny August day and the temperature inside the venue was like a microwave. Hot? Unbelievably so. I went in wearing a white t-shirt, stood at the front jammed against someone wearing a red t shirt and when i came out, my t-shirt was pink! I was one of two people at the front of the stage with a tape recorder in my hand. Just before "Hurt", Peter Hook wandered over and attempted to wrestle the tape machines from our hands and said "You bastards make enough money as it is". Bernard Sumner looked down and said "This one's for all you bootleggers, no bum notes, you'll make a fortune out of it". Funnily enough, earlier that day we'd asked Sumner if it was ok to record the gig and he said yes!
Cheers
Kevin
And added later:
From: "Kevin Maidment"
Subject: Re: Drumming in AoC (was Re: (Fac33) World In Motion remixes)
prior to Hurt he said...
"This one's for all you bootleggers, no bum notes, you'll make a fortune out of it" while Peter Hook attempted to wrestle the tape recorder from my friend's hands at the front of the stage .
Hands up if you are the person who ran around Portsmouth Guildhall with somebody's underpants on your head during the soundcheck because the roadie said he'd get you the bands' autographs if you did...
And from Pat Teasdale:
"I met New Order and Rob Gretton when they played in Portsmouth '84 .... we got into the soundcheck, got some sleeves autographed (including by Rob, who insisted on signing it 'Love and Kisses') and New Order played instrumentals of Walked in Line and Shes Lost Control, along with New Order stuff like Sooner than you think, etc."
Transcription:
First version (MP3): this source tape has pretty good dynmaic range but sounds pretty muddy. Misses out on the backing PA and Barney's first statement. Actually, I have the tape original, which I surmise is an Nth gen copy from the master, but not good enough to bother with making lossless clones. Also, this version was taped down in front and has lots of audience banter.
On another tape (davemings EZT seed, taped by dc_X79), there some C&W tune on the PA, and then the Order come on, with people yelling "Here we go, here we go!". This tape is superior in quality to the MP3 version, with less down-in-frontness, so this constitutes an upgrade compared to the first version.
BS: "Thanks very much, we've not done anything yet." (not present on the MP3 version)
The first part of Confusion is quite distorted. This was definitely recorded around a crowd of people who were following NO around during their '84 tour. (MP3 version)
Some girls scream about 2:00 in. Pretty good bass ending.
Amusing audience banter (MP3 version):
Guy: "Please get out of the way."
Girl: "Tell him not to push!" Whistle.
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Another guy: "Tell him to stop pushing!"
Girl: "Well, he says to stop pushing...Bernie...Bernie!"
Third guy: "Oh c'mon, _______ legs....
Loud whistles and "Here we go's" (both).
Ceremony
Blah, right channel drops out a couple of minutes in. (MP3 version)
Girl: "Bernie, Bernie, tell him...tell him not to push, Bernie!"
lyric: "Avenues, all lined with feces...abandon me, and then you... streak..." (you can leave the rest to your imagination)
More scuffling and requests...
Face Up
Fans are apparently speculating on what this is..."Perfect Kiss" "This isn't perfect kiss"...wonder if "this is the day"..."Blue Monday"
Stereo comes back. Early version drum pattern, more militaristic than the recorded version.
Comparing this version of Face Up to the first time they played it should be an interesting exercise, the lyrics slowly move closer to their final form.
Nice guitar work near the end.
After the song finishes up people start crying for Temptation...
Leave Me Alone
After it finishes...
(MP3 version)
Girl: "They _____ it."
Hurt
BS: "This set's for all you bootleggers, no bum notes on it, you'll make a fortune out of it".
(as reported by Kevin above, but wording slightly different)
The lyrics apparently carry along the theme:
BS: "I am for you will enjoy...fuck you..."
BS: "And it's time allowed to masturbate...in the commune."
'Dave Mings' (John Saunders) reports regarding their performance on Saturday Live the day before:
Yeah, August 25th 1984...the next night they played Portsmouth and I'm sure during Hurt, Barney sings 'no more mistakes like the one yesterday' or something like that.
BS: "Thanks very much, thank you, thank you. And I like to add to that, thank you."
Audience: "Fon-tastic. Bastard"
Bernard introduces Dave Pils.
BS: "This is Dave, our roadie, he's from Walthamstow, in London."
Folks say, "Hi Dave!" (MP3 version)
BS: "That one over there is Terry. He's our other roadie. I used to go to school with him. And the other one is just too cool to mention."
Somebody cries out, "Who are you?", repeating it once. (MP3 version)
The Village
The sounds starts going really muddy at this point on the MP3 version. The dc_X79 version doesn't have that problem.
Yet more cries for "Temptation"...will New Order play it? Stay tuned.
Dreams Never End
The speakers drown out Hooky's vocal in bass feedback...
The dc_X79 source has a bit of tape warble at about 1:20 or so.
Temptation remains a popular request. Somebody calls out for Gillian.
People start changing "New Order New Order"
Girl: "Temptation...it's a bloody football match." Then she cries for 'Ally'.
There's a cut between these songs on the dc_X79 version.
Age Of Consent
Source cuts out for a second about 5 seconds in. There's a couple more dropouts about a minute in. (MP3 version)
A tiny bit of warble on the dc_X79 version as well.
BS: "...fast a little bit, fast...". You can hear this better on dc_X79, as the MP3 version has too many people yelling for Temptation to make out anything, but what is said is still hard to make out.
Hooky says something about putting something back together again.
Somebody actually calls out for Procession.
Girl: "Give us the thing, Barney. Give us the thing, Barney." She's really annoying here. (MP3 version)
Blue Monday
People clap along to the inital rhythm. And of course, people start singing about, including the Girl (MP3 version, of course).
The end of Blue Monday segues into The Perfect Kiss
BS: "This song is called 'A Perfect Kiss'.
One of the people there cries "They've changed the name again." (MP3) Probably a bootlegger.
One difference in the early arrangement is that Hooky plays a bass solo while Barney pounds on the cowbell. Good bass solo at the end too.
4:35-4:40 on the dc_X79 source has glitches, which have been digitally corrected by patching from elsewhere in the track.
A bit of distortion and bass feedback between tracks.
Temptation
BS: "This song's for our lads who fought in the, er, Falklands... there's not many for it here, but the ones that are, for once, I agree with you."
Cut-out near the end. Wonder happened to the Girl, considering she had her knickers in a hoot over them playing this...(MP3 version). The dc_X79 version has no cuts.
Face Up 26 AUG 84 Guildhall, Portsmouth England
A long time now
I've seen your face
seen your face
seen your face
I always thought I was in disgrace
tell me ___ what you were pointed to
I was young and you were old
your ____ cock was feeing cold
Don't ____ on your knees when... (can't make out rest)
Here were days when I had a ______ (sounds like 'cockpit')
Oh how I cannot bear the thought of you
I said Oh how I cannot bear the very thought of you
He said...oh how I cannot bear the thought of you
Knowing you like I use to do
We were young and we were pure
A long time now I've seen your face
It's always falling into disgrace
Am I a man...it often feels like that
It always feels (like) the pump to the twat
You were young and I was old
I am always being cold
Oh how I cannot bear the thought of you
He said Oh how I cannot bear the very thought of you
And we were young and not so pure
We went down___(?) like an open door
I said oh how I cannot bear the thought of you
I said oh how I cannot bear the thoughtttttt of you...woo!
A long time now from remind(?) everything Almost blighted(?) right to be
I have forgot I ever known
They won't...but what so are we
You were young and I was old
I was always being cold
You love me and I love you
What the fuck are we gonna do?
Oh how I cannot bear the thought of you
I said oh how I cannot bear the thought of you
I said oh how I cannot bear the thought of you
I said oh how I cannot bear the thought of you
I said Oh how I cannot bear the very thought of you
We were so young and we were so pure
We ripped our lives through the open door
Oh how I cannot bear the thouuuughtttt of you...woo!
Versions
AUD #2 - dc_X79, ANA0 - taped with an Aiwa cassette recorder, with a one point stereo mic.
Seeded to DIME by davemings 2005-05-09. Multiple people has noted that they've gotten their tape from a Douglas Pirie out of Glasgow. From DAD thread: "I have a master recording of the Portsmouth Guildhall 1984 gig. I made the recording using an AIWA Walkman type thang (reasonably expensive consumer piece of kit for it's time." This and the above may be one and the same...or maybe not. davemings: "Better than my old tape which is definitely a different source. Mine has some punter saying 'They're all Sinbad's that's why you prick' after Barney dedicates Temptation to 'all the lads who fought in the Falklands'."
AUD #3 - Referred to as the "Sinbads" version.
davemings: "Looking at the write up of the show that you have done, my own is from another source so there were at least three different tapers at this show." Aaron's copy has the "Sinbads" comment as well, and his sounds very close to the master. Best sounding source is MP3-only, haven't found it lossless." The YouTube version derives from this.
AUD v4 - SH, Sony WM-D6c, unknown mics. MB has a version w/o cut in Confusion, and other improvements which make me question the ANA1 designation on the 2011-01-30 seed.
AUD v5 - RJ, Sony WM-D6c, Aiwa CM-30 mics. Missing first two tracks. Edit point between DNE and AoC. A later edit point happens between TPK and Temptation and misses a part of BS's Falklands quip. Has 1s of post-gig PA music..."groovy".
Other recordings from KM (unknown equipment), and Mr. Rubbish (Panasonic with built-in mics) are known to exist, but don't have samples.
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